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You Don't Speak For ME

You Don't Speak For ME

Posted August 11th, 2011 by Berta González Barbier Berta González Barbier in Patriotism

Liz Thatcher asked me a question on RightOnSCV, which inspired this blog post so, thanks Liz but fair (pun intended) WARNING LONG BLOG POST.

 

There was a group called You Don’t Speak For Me, which was founded by retired Army Colonel Al Rodríguez in 2006 to represent Americans of Hispanic ancestry like him who are opposed to legalization for those who have entered the US illegally or overstayed their visas. The group was created after Colonel Rodríguez viewed media coverage of the 2006 United States immigration reform protests. According to Rodriguez, "Their leaders were saying it was a march for immigrant rights and a Latino/Hispanic movement. I thought to myself, 'Hey, those are illegal aliens, not immigrants!' I'm of Hispanic ancestry and those people are acting like they speak for me. Well, you don't speak for me!"

 

You Don't Speak for Me was launched with help from the Federation for American Immigration Reform whose acronym is FAIR. Less than three months after the launch, a vice chair of the group claimed that it had attracted about a thousand members. In 2007, group leaders participated in a rally for immigration reform outside of the White House.

 

I personally contacted FAIR a few months ago after learning of their existence, wanted to join the group, but was told via email by their representative Susan Tully, tullys@fairus.org, FAIR National Field Director that this group is no longer active. Needless to say, I was very disappointed.

 

There are many of us all over the USA, who continue to speak out against the abuses committed AGAINST the legal residents of the USA by illegal aliens. Amongst those in the political arena who publicly support LEGAL immigration and OPPOSE illegal immigration New Mexico Governor Susana Martínez, Florida Congressman Marco Rubio, Texas Congressman Francisco “Quico” Canseco, Washington State Congresswoman Jaime Herrera Beutler, former California Lieutenant Governor Abel Maldonado are all Americans of Hispanic ancestry.

 

Unfortunately, we have a current administration led by President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, which is suing individual states of the UNITED States of America for their efforts to stem the tide of illegal aliens draining their taxpayer resources and victimizing their legal residents. These states have only undertaken these measures because their/our Federal Government has failed to secure our borders and enforce the law. Even now, this administration is still attempting to pass the Dream Act although voted down by our elected Congress, and advance a national "amnesty by Presidential decree" agenda to circumvent the will of the people and American interests. To me this is in and of itself absolutely a travesty and incredible!

 

The United States of America is a sovereign nation, with lawfully binding immigration laws, which OUR Federal Government and ALL of our leaders at whatever government level and of whatever race or ethnicity swear an oath to uphold and defend. They have failed us miserably and it is no wonder states like Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, and Utah have already passed, and Lawmakers in Idaho, Maryland, Oklahoma, and Texas, have indicated that they will push to adopt measures related to Arizona’s hard new immigration laws when they reconvene their following legislative session. Additionally, Lawmakers in Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Pennsylvania and South Carolina have currently introduced “copycat” legislation. All of these states are trying to protect their citizens from the abject failure of our own federal government to secure our borders and enforce our lawfully enacted immigration laws.

 

I believe it is up to those of us eligible to vote to hold them accountable at the ballot box. Those of us who are Americans of Hispanic ancestry in my opinion have a special obligation to speak up in defense of our country and the right of this nation to enforce immigration laws. I personally have been called every name imaginable from both sides of this issues and it deters me not one iota. My immigrant parents understood the difference between right and wrong, our obligation to defend that which is right and speak out against what is wrong, and passed those values on to me. When and if the head of state of any foreign nation, which has a credible immigration policy in effect, that actually works, wants to give us advice I will listen but until that time comes, Felípe Calderón and the rest can shut up and concentrate on getting their own house in order.

 

Moreover, MY president, whoever he/she may be, needs to listen to, defend, and honor the wishes of the legal residents/voters of the United States of America. I have never, nor will I ever, vote for anyone who advocates for amnesty or any other REWARD for those breaking the law and entering the United States of America without permission. By the way, the only current presidential candidate scoring well on immigration issues is Michele Bachman with a “B-” grade. Governor Rick Perry’s current ranking is “D-” per http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/2012-presidential-hopefuls-immigration-stances.html

 

In my opinion, political “leaders” such as Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, California Assembly member Gil Cedillo, Illinois Congressman Luis Gutierrez, and their ilk should be arrested and tried for treason against the United States of America. They show more concern for foreign nationals than the American taxpayers, who misguidedly elected them to office or the laws they swore to uphold. They are all violating their own sworn oaths to uphold and defend the laws and Constitution of the USA against ALL threats both foreign and domestic.

 

Historically the United States has actually been quite generous to foreigners on American soil. When Mexico gained California from Spain, the Mexican government confiscated property and DEPORTED all Spanish Citizens. When the United States of America won control of California, Mexican citizens were allowed to remain, keep their land if they could substantiate legal ownership, and become AMERICAN citizens. The La Raza folks (the race, which one again?), LULAC, MALDEF, MECHA, the ACLU, etc are seriously misinformed! Apparently, none of these folks recognizes the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The land that the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo brought into the United States became, between 1850 and 1912, all or part of ten States. They are California (1850), Nevada (1864), Utah (1896), and Arizona (1912), as well as the whole of, depending upon interpretation, the entire State of Texas (1845) that then included part of Kansas (1861), Colorado (1876), Wyoming (1890), Oklahoma (1902), and New Mexico (1912).

 

The treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed by Nicholas Trist on behalf of the U.S. Fully authorized to represent the government as plenipotentiary and conferred with "full powers" representatives of Mexico Luis G.  Cuevas, Bernardo Couto and Miguel Atristain signed on February 2, 1848, at the main altar of the old Basilica of Guadalupe at Villa Hidalgo (within the present city limits) as U.S troops under the command of Gen. Winfield Scott were OCCUPYING Mexico City. WE AMERICANS WON SO THEY NEED TO GET OVER IT!

 

Legal immigrants are well represented by Ms. Salcedo’s comments:

http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2010/05/18/you-dont-speak-for-me-legal-mexican-immigrants-outraged-over-amnesty-for-illegals-standing-up-against-illegal-immigration-video/

 

While I am on my soapbox, you cannot be “Mexican American” since they are both individual nationalities unless you have dual citizenship and in that case, it would be American Mexican if you reside in this country, otherwise you are one or the other. The same applies to persons of Cuban, Italian, Irish, Polish, etc ancestry. Maybe this is part of the problem too, what country do these folks advocating for the “rights” of illegals actually pledge allegiance to?

 

I am giving serious thought to forming another “You Don’t Speak for Me” group as a counter to these folks who claim that “Hispanics” want amnesty for illegals, the Dream Act enacted, etc since they truly do not speak for me or any other AMERICANS of Hispanic ancestry that I am related to or know.

 

I hope I answered your question Liz.

 

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  • Yulia
    I often think about the Holocaust or slavery when I think about this issue. The Nazi's kielld 6 million Jews and 10 to 11 million total when you look at Romanian's, the handicap, etc looking back we are horrified at how the people of Germany and the world stood by and let that happen. Some may think this is a bad analogy but I wonder .if we believe abortion is murder then does the analogy not hold true? At the time, the majority of the church did not stand up .in fact the culture was so anti-semitic that the majority of the church did backflips and contortions of enormous proportions, adjusting their stance to biblically support the Nazi's .but the Confessing Church did take a stand and they took a very difficult stance one that was destined to failure and had consequences of death for those participating in opposition to the Nazi's but had to be done none the less because what they saw happening was in clear violation of scripture. We can not stand by with our mouths silent and say nothing, in fear of offending. 55 million babies have been aborted in this country in 40 years. I am also greatly encouraged by the examples of the Holocaust and the ending of slavery as it was known at the time. The example of what kind, compassionate and steadfast Christians and the impact that we can have.For me, I personally think a great step forward would be education, education, education. Do not assume because the person is a Christian that they believe abortion is wrong. I have been surprised by my conversations with Christians who bought into what culture has to say, never heard any sermons or discussions on the topic and never had anyone every challenge them to consider some of their thought processes, what the bible has to say about the issue, etc. Are our parents educated enough that they are educating their children? Probably not it's not something we discuss. I have been suprised by the lack of knowledge in this area..not just from a Christian perspective but even a medical perspective no where else in this land can a women have a medical procedure done, where the consequences are not explained to her. Perhaps the consequences are vastly under-reported bc women do not talk about the depression, the thoughts of suicide, the life long grief.I'm sure there are many factors that motivate a person to consider an abortion but I think the biggest one might be fear fear of what it will do to our future .fear of what kind of life our child will lead, fear of how we will make it through 9 months of pregnancy, even if we know we can give the child up .fear of what others will think about us and maybe selfishness too .and lack of knowlege..I bet most women don't know that the babies heart is already beating by the time they go to have an abortion or that the abortion may cause some serious side affects (I went into deep depression and quit college for a time and a still carry a deep, deep, deep regret 20 years later. I am not a crying person life has been too hard on me such that I do not cry about much of anything but there have been times, as recently as last year that I was a sobbing mess temporarily the guilt is gone and I have been forgiven but there are still consequences to our actions and a real remorse about what could and should have been). On the fear side, the bible has a lot to say about this God can and will provide, He is the determiner of our fates, our circumstances don't dictate our futures. I have been so encouraged by the stories of Reggie Dabbs (a wonderful Christian & successful motivational speaker) who was conceived when his birth Mom prostituted herself to get money to feed her children and got pregnant (he was adopted and has a beautiful, beautiful testimony) and by the story of the lady whom the October baby movie is based upon (her birth Mom attempted to late term abort her and she lived through the procedure) I sat and watched her speak in person last year she is handicapped bc of the trauma she went through but she is the most beautiful person (physically), sings beautifully, speaks so well and would make any parent proud and I was sooo moved by her testimony and the third is a friend's daughter who scheduled an abortion but before going through with it, choose to keep her baby . looking at these 3 lives, they are just some of the many examples of where fear of the unknown or future almost kielld a life that is so beautiful and precious!I hope that anyone reading this, that this makes you to start to think and wonder and maybe question some of your though processes. If you have never wrestled with this issue, I would encourage you to. If you are faced with an unplanned or difficult pregnancy, seek counsel and get all the facts..don't rush off to a quick decision that you may regret your whole life if you've had an abortion and are carrying unprocessed grief from it, there are many places you can get help! Don't carry this burden alone. You can be forgiven, completely and fully! There is forgiveness at the cross. No sin is greater than the other! No sin can keep you from the Lord. This is the bibles message. As he was dying on the cross, Jesus asked the Lord to forgive those who had hung him there Forgive them Father, they know not what they do He can and will forgive you too if you turn to Him.Don't know if I answered your questions Jonathan but this is a HUGE suitcase to unpack =) Hope my comments give you some things to ponder and wrestle further with. Can you tell I'm passionate about this issue?
  • Berta
    Hello Carmen and Reymundo. I apologize for not responding sooner but I just now viewed your comments. The webmaster usually forwards comments, but has not done so recently and I do not check the site every day either. Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I would be delighted to “talk” with either of you. My email address is berta@thevine.net. Looking forward to chatting with you.
  • Berta
    What’s the matter Nate? Scvtalk readers tired of your "conversation" so you need to find another playground? Sorry, no support for your antics here either. As far as I am aware, Jeremiah Perez and I have no problems. We frequently agree and we did on this issue per his comments below. When we do disagree, I believe our discussions have been respectful unlike those you are prone to engage in so you will need to go elsewhere to “stir up the pot”.
  • Nate
    Berta is afraid of Mr. Perez. Like Berta Kryptonite! Even Bill can't hold his own against the Republican worst nightmare! HAHA Keep it up Mr. Perez.
  • Berta
    Thank you all very much for your positive comments. I appreciate the support! Liz, I agree the picture is great and it is courtesy of our friend Tammy!
  • Liz Thatcher
    P.S. I love the picture!!! :)
  • Bill Reynolds
    "American Mexican"... man that is rich. Excellent article, Berta! Obama should be impeached!!!
  • Al Porcellino
    Berta - OUTSTANDING
  • Liz Thatcher
    Yes, you did! Thanks for the insight Berta!
  • Mr Perez
    I agree with the Colonel wholeheartidly. What you see happen too often in this world is a whole group's view is hijacked by a few. Yes there are some racist people out there who cant tell the difference between an illegal or legal immigrant. But it doesnt mean if you question why we are not doing something about illegal immigration that you are racist.
  • Sue Hartman
    You go, Berta!!!

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